March 2018 Q&A [Part 2] Are Pre-Built PCs Worth It?

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Part 1:

0:17 – 5.25″ Drive Bays Dead?
0:38 – Which knife did Tim get?
1:54 – How did HUB start?
3:03 – Future Z370 Compatibility
3:57 – Motorsport fan?
4:43 – Ryzen Overclocking issues
5:33 – Are pre-built PCs worth it?
6:17 – Widespread Kaby Lake-G adoption?
8:24 – Further Spectre/Meltodwn testing
8:56 – How much Hardware have you Unboxed?
9:06 – Will RAM prices go down?
9:37 – The perfect laptop
10:14 – HUB a good source for benchmarks
10:38 – Far Cry 5 benchmark plans
10:53 – Does Steve still have all his fingers?
11:04 – Play games or just benchmark
11:23 – USB 3.1 Gen2 ports on cases
12:01 – Will there be more 2000 series Ti models?
12:27 – High refresh panels for phones

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  1. 0:17 – 5.25" Drive Bays Dead?
    0:38 – Which knife did Tim get?
    1:54 – How did HUB start?
    3:03 – Future Z370 Compatibility
    3:57 – Motorsport fan?
    4:43 – Ryzen Overclocking issues
    5:33 – Are pre-built PCs worth it?
    6:17 – Widespread Kaby Lake-G adoption?
    8:24 – Further Spectre/Meltodwn testing
    8:56 – How much Hardware have you Unboxed?
    9:06 – Will RAM prices go down?
    9:37 – The perfect laptop
    10:14 – HUB a good source for benchmarks
    10:38 – Far Cry 5 benchmark plans
    10:53 – Does Steve still have all his fingers?
    11:04 – Play games or just benchmark
    11:23 – USB 3.1 Gen2 ports on cases
    12:01 – Will there be more 2000 series Ti models?
    12:27 – High refresh panels for phones

  2. That moment your question was not answered in either video. Cri face

  3. Get those sales on ram, picked up 2x8gb 3600mhz G skill trident RGB for 180$

  4. Intel really better have compatibility with whatever comes after Coffee lake. I mean I know of course there's the distinct possibility of greed setting in and not allowing it, but that would be a really big nail in their coffin. I'm not one of those people pissy about z270 not supporting Coffee Lake, I can understand that one at least – it was built with 4 cores in mind from the get go, and historically speaking Intel has always had 2 gens per platform. Sandy/Ivy, Haswell/Broadwell, Skylake/Kabylake, so that one gets a pass. However, having a single gen board is just asking to be hated.

  5. He likes F1! Me too! Aussie Qualy is starting on Sky F1 in about 2 min.

  6. Being a huge skyline fan Steve my respect for you just went up infinitely.

  7. I think prebuilts are worth it in certain cases. For example, I can hop on eBay and pick up a used Dell with a 4th gen i5 or an i7, 8gb+ of ram, and 500gb+ for around $150-200 depending on the configuration. While the power supply isn't gonna be great, you can still add in a 1050ti (lol not when they're $200+, but when they were $125), and an SSD boot drive and you've got a cheap ($350) general purpose gaming pc

  8. Ah yes the dieselgate car! The one with the rigged benchmark scores.

    Awesome display of corporate psychopathy by VW.

    (Steve, you're trolling about really owning a Passat TDI right?)

  9. Guys I have a question: do you think people will ever be able to count to the number 11, or do you think wearing shoes is the limiting factor in the average consumer's inability to count past 10?

  10. You got a Medford Praetorian to unbox boxes? Well, nobody can say you aren't serious about chopping up that cardboard.

  11. hey, there is the Steve cam at 3:13 ! must be because of your promise that RAM prices will drop and nVidia will have more Ti models in the 1100/2000 series!

  12. Australians pronouncing the word knife is just the best!!

  13. 5.25" drives are useful. When I finish moving around so often I'm gonna get a full tower and stick a Bluray drive in one.

  14. HEY! 5 1/4" drive bays are not dead! All LTO drives are 5 1/4" (Finally not full height anymore). Granted there are not many people using magnetic tape apart from crazy people and the enterprise but 12TB per cartridge and 330 MB/s are not that bad. If you consider that the Tape uses ECC and lasts 40 or more years, this is quite cool if only drives would not cost 2500$.

  15. I don’t think that high refresh rate smartphones will be the “norm” because the price of that will be a much lower battery life. And I think many people would agree that’s not really worth it.

  16. Pre-built is the way to go at this point for new PC buyers. I saw a Alienware, which is kinda overhyped, but with a 1080Ti for $1300.

  17. Not worth it at all, the price includes windows in it since windows is free all over the Internet.

  18. Such a shame that you have to remove that spring-mechanism from the knife. Sometimes laws can be unreasonable, whetere it opens with a spring or by hand, it won't make any difference for people who want to stab you. At most it makes knifes less cool for kids.
    I doubt that you would get prosecuted for owning this knife given how you got it (unless the private prison industry in Australia is large and politicians take bribe money from these companies), as long as you would pretend that you don't know that it is illegal. Now there is no way back. 😉

    These guys who sent the knives: nice guys for former soldiers who kill for a state (USA anyway). 😉

  19. Hardware Unboxed
    Steve, define soon? I see Ryzen take the performance crown in S1 of 2019. The 7 nm. nodes of both GF and TSMC are doing well, lots of details are known because these companies have shared many details, including technical graphcs (density, freuqency vs. voltagel, routing…). Intel its 10 nm. node is not doing well and even if they wouldn't struggle so much, the best possible outcome is that Intel wins in some regards compared to GF and possibly TSMC (because of demands from other companies for other products than CPUs) and lose in other regards (like density of transistors). In that case it is all about which company is willing to deliver more value for the same price. I think that you will also speculate that AMD is willing to offer more performance for the same price. Intel doesn't like it but AMD twists Intel its hand. They already did with the hexacore and the octacore, and with the number of cores for Intel their HEDT platform. Intel also had to use less crappy TIM for their IHS. I suspect that Intel will eventually also offer more longevity for the motherboards, but only (as you said) when Ryzen performs better.

    It might seem far away to some people that Ryzen will outperform Intel but at the end of the day it all is about the used node. Of course you have to optimize (like routing) but both companies work hard on that. Take into consideration that the 14 nm. GF node – coming from Samsung – never was developed for CPUs and a high clock frequency, it was developed for low power at relatively low clock frequencies (RAM). The next node will be either the TSMC 7 nm. node (more likely according to the latest rumors) or the GF 7 nm. node which is based upon the work from IBM.

  20. high refresh rate needs more power on GPU which means more power consumption and less battery life lol

  21. The deadly Duo. Timbo and the DON. If you two DO end up in the Big house, I will come Visit you. Just remember NOT to drop the soap.

  22. Funny the Formula 1 race is tomorrow right next door to you in Australia

  23. Anyone else know when the new lian li pc 0 11 air case is out?

  24. Guys – I like your Q & A but look at the Camera when answering and not at each other, ( Just an observation )

  25. You are my favorite tech channel on YouTube, love your hard work. Keep it up!

  26. Would you recommend using liquid metal as thermal paste to cpu-heatsink.

  27. VW PASSAT !? after R33 !!?? Speak about insanity. I facepalmed so hard when I heard passat, it'll leave a bright red mark. But you sort of saved it with R33.

  28. I refuse to buy a case without a 5.25'' bay or bays ,fan controllers – card readers – blu-ray drives – usb's – HDD docks and the list goes on……………..

  29. I love that you read the questions with the typos included. I bust out laughing every time.

  30. They could make a comeback if those holographic disk drives ever get put into production and become cheap enough to be useful. Soooo, maybe in a decade.

  31. Hey Tim, thanks for the answer and I think it would be best to wait and see the adoption rate for Kaby Lake G and also for the new H-Series procecors and see whats what. Anyways, thanks again and hope to see your riview on them 🙂

  32. I had MSI b350 gaming pro carbon motherboard and my r5 1500x was running at 4.025 GHz on 1.3825 volt like a champ.

  33. I know you don't have a magic ball to read the future, but do you think Vega56/64 prices will normalize down to MSRP at some point in the next 3 months? I've been debating about just jumping on a Vega Frontier Edition (16GB HBM2) and noticed that the NewEgg price on Vega FE dropped to $850 a few days ago. I do gaming and plan to explore some GPU scientific programming this year so the Vega FE has always interested me. How are the Vega FE drivers for gaming now? Thanks for all your hard work. You guys are my favorite tech-tube channel!

  34. I'm still confused. Do you guys like playing games or is it just a job. Linus for example admitted that he doesn't play games so it's a valid question.

  35. Great video – I really like the news addition to your content.

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